Confederacy: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Confederate symbols are still celebrated despite the ugly history they symbolize. John Oliver suggests some representations of southern pride that involve less racism and more Stephen Colbert.

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Brian Johnson
You know they teach in elementary school it 'wasn't mainly about slavery.' In New York. Which is pretty ridiculous.
Mackdaknife6669
Someplace better for the statues? A dumpster? Bottom of the ocean? Launched towards the sun?
Parisa Keyvanmanesh
Anyone else start crying actual tears for the first two statue suggestions? I want us to be so much better than what we are
Eric Wycoff
I thought the entire reason why those statues are still up is to remind us of how we used to be as a country and why we never turn back to that.
Arindam Chowdhury
basically .....White People messed up the world.
Arindam Chowdhury
You know what the irony was in that news clip ....
the Black dude looked like a million bucks and the white guy looked like a homeless hobo
Sean Clough
hahaha, you ass-clowns vilify the confederacy for slavery, the cessation led to war and subsequently the emancipation proclamation. the fucking UNION allowed it beforehand. God! people are stupid.
lol, I am a person ....
Weasel XP
OK, I think we should take them down. Thanks for the eye opener. As an aside, this argument is much more convincing than the "f@$k, you , you are racist" diatribe that I usually get.
TheOldBearTime
It must be feel conflicting to suppose to be proud of the first American rebellion and then not the second.
appie yeesje
48+38+9+6=101 You had ONE job !!!!!!!
yasmina farih
Abrolf Rinklor
Riebenzahl -
Centered around our friendly north south rivalry......yeah, sure. I just try to imagine oone guy dressing as german WW1 soldier and one as french soldier serving snails and beer to celebrate the friendly rivalry they had ^^
Bangcat
The actual abolishment of slavery was a byproduct of the war, not the actual cause. You should brush up on history that's not been filtered.

I understand a British fame monger not knowing any difference, but the rest of you might actually read, even if it doesn't fit your pre conceived narrative.
Bangcat
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation Taste them history facts.
Bangcat
They were all American soldiers... that's why military bases. Half of what you all think about Lincoln and his beliefs of black people are wrong. The north gave birth to the slavery in the nation.

You even still read your own statistics wrong.
ramzi45
people who claim the South wasnt racist or the Confederecy isn't about slavery, is like people who claim Islam is the religon of peace
golferbob63
Mr Oliver should get Mr Corden(james) and go back to England. If they don't like it here then they should leave. Btw we kicked there ass once upon a time.
lord6617
The trump administration is the head of a new confederacy. Built on racism and the oppression of the many for the good of the few, lying to many of its members to convince them to lay down their lives in the defense of what they've been led to believe is right. We are watching history repeat itself.
Persian Mapper
"The confederacy is like Nazi Germany of the USA"
but.... the americans still APPRECIATE the damn thing
flozigo97
This really isn’t a debate at all...as an Austrian one of my great grandfathers was an actively participating Nazi and no one in my family would consider putting up a picture of him. It’s not a matter of erasing our history, but instead of accepting it and deciding not to honour his beliefs and the shaming past of our nation.
Jintaro Kensei
Lenin's corpse is still on display in Russia. He butchered half the country. Stop bitching about a single war. The rest of the world has had much more and keeps the record. Fkin tards.
Michael Pharr
to be fair, slavery was a state right. soooo kinda not wrong but
Throatwobbler Mangrove
LMAO at Adolf Hankler! That was classic.
Throatwobbler Mangrove
LMAO at Adolf Hankler! That was classic.
ramzi45
slave back then where expensive, but a worthwhile investment like a computer today, or a car, expensive but worth it
Wildfan1984
So his ancestors didn't have slaves. Not because they were morally opposed to the institution itself. But because they couldn't swing the tab for owning a slave.
Kimberly Campbell
Anderson cooper I love you 😍😍
zoe vee
Fucking jimmy savile. If there's a hell, he's in it.
Crank Dawg
OMG! Colbert cameo! Freakin' Awesome!!!!
Albert Rogers
About the Flag of the Confederacy. If it is being carried by a person who aserts his belief in what it represents, he should be asked if he really wants to be separate from the United States, which is what the Confederacy did. H'e perfectly entitled to do so, and we should siimply start with striking his name fro the records of citizens of the USA..
After a sufficient purge of these people, of course,we need a general election.
WestOfEarth
Also let's be clear. Most people feel these statues and other memorials belong in museums. Very few believe they should disappear. Calls of 'trying to erase history' isn't remotely true. Trying to erase intimidation, yes. Statues in a museum do not erase history.
Connor Shidler
An evil entity is the Soviet Union, an evil entity is Nazi Germany, an evil entity is semantics and identity politics. There's no wonder this show has dropped in views because it's views are extremely biased. Your like the Christians you make fun of. You cherry pick your own bullshit and state it as the whole truth. The constitution of any country is biased towards a majority, look at america's. White landowners can vote, that doesn't make it or the people who wrote it evil, what makes them evil is this nihilistic attitude all liberals have now and its been getting old for about a decade. Stop deifying people based on there color and looking for diversity in skin color. Tearing down statues and burning flags won't get you anywhere, all it shows is how stupid college kids and minorities high on white people can be.
MartianManFromMars
Why do people give a shit about fucking STATUES?
MartianManFromMars
Who fucking cares about the Confederacy?

They've all been dead for years.
LEEboneisDaMan
FUCK TRAITORS, FUCK NAZIS, AND FUCK THE CONFEDERACY!!!
Joey George
The monuments should stay
Sean B
You have to admit that there is a certain irony of a British immigrant telling us about US history...
Kennedy Schwiebert
We are taught in school that it was about state's rights. Maybe more that the union was fighting about state's rights or Lincoln's goal was preserving the union by establishing that state's did not have the right to leave?
JP Rhea
Don't you mean A. T. Hankler?
Matt Jamison
Lots of fun facts in the comments. Read on...
Alejandro Espinosa
9:00 the wierd guy with a beard is right, most of the population of the south lived in poor conditions, only the few rich people where slave owners, the white low class often even worked side to side with the slaves for money, some white families lived free but with no food compared to the slaves sometimes these white people lived in poorer conditions.
Bjorleif Blank
John Oliver started as a decent journalist, and did an excellent job. He still entertains well, but has clearly switched to social engineering, by trying to influence people. Depressing.
As for the Civil War, it started 1961, and the Union passed the Emancipation Proclaimation 1963. So what were they fighting about 1961-63? And the Union included several slave states - that of course were NOT covered by the 1963 EP. :)
The whole 1963-stunt was to stop England and France from supporting the Confederacy.
PhoenixXMC
I was laughing at Confederate Santa but then John showed what statue they’re arguing for and that’s my home town 🤦🏽‍♂️
Jane Kailey
John, sorry to enlighten you, but the Confederacy was actually PART OF they U.S. "They" were not "enemies" of the U.S., they were part of the U.S. The North was enemies of the South and vice versa (at least that's the story). IT WAS A CIVIL WAR; "THEY" DIDN'T KILL US; WE KILLED EACH OTHER!!!
morbidly obese
John Oliver wants his cheese.
Peter Carrillo
Is so if you think the likes and compared to the non likes... it's no wonder Confederates in the time of Waging War and can only amplify why they lost like bitches and they should consider making a new flag for this era... change it up to not look Confederate make it look ambiguous and then you can just lie about it and if anybody ask you what kind of flag that is all you have to say.... if you don't know then don't ask.... hey believe me there were Northern who loves slaves to they just live the further north and believe me in Wisconsin you go up North and it's like Confederacy especially those little stinking towns here's what I don't get north south whatever it seems white folks seem to have the best land and yet they still complain I believe that if you're going to want visitors to come visit your town or whatever and you put it on television" come visit"... you should emphasize only white folks that look like us should come cuz you know and I know White people hate ethnics because Avast majority of whites they're usually fat and ugly and I'm talking about majority of them and I want you I'm only talking about the small little stink towns.. I am planning a trip next summer to work my way through all parts of Wisconsin next spring I will be filming to see if anything changed so get ready Wisconsin oh and by the way my video taping will be secret
DionysusFTW
The reason of the war was secession, that's it. The trigger was slavery, but that's it. South wanted secession, north wanted to kill the confederates rather than allow that to happen
Miss Minutia
As the caption suggests in the clip of the Nathan Bedford Forrest statue ("Mayor wants statue removed"), most of Nashville wants that statue gone. Trust me, I grew up there- everyone fantasizes about dynamiting the damn thing. Trouble is, as you said, it's on private property and the owner is a gun nut as well as a heinous racist. At least the ones on public property people can do something about; it's high time they did.
RMLEE77
4:38 This hack completely misleads his audience of lemmings. Yes you libtard snowflakes, I called you lemmings. Read a book. Hell read 5 books. He picks and chooses his citations based on his biased opinion, and twists them then calls them fact.

"A common assumption to explain the cause of the American Civil War was that the North was no longer willing to tolerate slavery as being part of the fabric of US society and that the political power brokers in Washington were planning to abolish slavery throughout the Union. Therefore for many people slavery is the key issue to explain the causes of the American Civil War. However, it is not as simple as this and slavery, while a major issue, was not the only issue that pushed American into the ‘Great American Tragedy’. By April 1861, slavery had become inextricably entwined with state rights, the power of the federal government over the states, the South’s ‘way of life’ etc. – all of which made a major contribution to the causes of the American Civil War." -The History Learning Site. (From his own country, and not written by a confederate)

Let me break it down for you simpletons. The cause of the Civil War was that the Union (United States) starting imposing restrictions and taxes that benefited the North while excluding the South from the rest of the union. These were directly aimed at forcing them to change their way of life.

Example: Tariff of 1832 "Enacted on July 13, 1832, this was referred to as a protectionist tariff in the United States. The purpose of this tariff was to act as remedy for the conflict created by the Tariff of 1828. Mainly, the protective Tariff of 1828 was created in such a way that it intended to protect the industry in the north. So the Tariff of 1828 was also called the Tariff of Abominations by Southern states as it seemed unfair on the part of the government to favor the North by sidelining the south." - history.house.gov

All you have to do is read, and research to find this guy is feeding you bull from his leftist agenda playbook.
LilTRoberts1000
If it's a memorial for Confederate soldiers then I'm alright with that. Hundreds of thousands of people died in America's bloodiest war. There should be memorials for something like that. They were still Americans, they were still our people. However a monument celebrating the confederacy that lost is like celebrating the nazis for giving it their allies . The confederacy goal was to keep slavery. People don't like that so they come up with states rights bullshit. It's true it was states rights. A states right to keep owning slaves that was in the states constitution. Your history is about killing Americans so you could own other people. To say you got a little rebel in ya is to say hey fuck the government, but let's actually do it and be traitors. That's what the confederates were. Traitors who along with the North are responsible for the most American deaths in one war than every other war.
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